Enlightment doesn't pay my mortgage.
Practice and a separate Career?
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Posts: 859 (06/10/08 06:25:41) Lady Governess |
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Posts: 18 (06/10/08 06:27:06) |
Practice and Demanding Career?
On that I tend to drop the career. Why should a yogi want or desire demanding career? Or if you are not yogi than do 15-30 min gymnastics and go do your work. It's traditional also to have 4 live ashrams. So, one day you'll give up your demanding job (or vice versa) and come (back) to yoga.
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Posts: 860 (06/10/08 06:30:45) Lady Governess |
And your point in repeating your post is...?
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Posts: 19 (06/10/08 06:33:49) |
Sorry
 My old sparc Ultra 10 Debian Linux gave me error, but only slowly.
See my point I don't have to pay mortgage on my archaic sparc station. Or I just guess person could live modestly.
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dalikiefer |
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Posts: 26 (06/10/08 07:23:54) |
I attempted to live very modestly for nearly two years working less than demanding jobs for very little money so I could practice - it was incredibly difficult
to do and I am quite sure it affected my overall health.
Unfortunately in the current climate no matter how little you spend living is still very expense - and that is the point, you have to have a life outside of this discipline. I believe Guruji speaks alittle about poverty in Yoga Mala. |
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cody pomeray |
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Posts: 157 (06/10/08 08:35:08) |
I always thought that one of the greatest benefits of the Ashtanga Vinyasa Yoga system was that it was a practice that was perfectly suited for householders?
Given the means and opportunity I'm sure it would be great to go to an Ashram and have plenty of time for multiple asana and meditations sessions. But for the majority of us that need to work in order to pay the bills and provide Reese's Puffs to the chilluns, I'm just grateful that we can learn and practice a system that supports rather than defines our daily lives. |
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Posts: 49 (06/10/08 09:10:08) |
Re: demanding career.
SKPJ: sanskrit professor, householder, outstanding member of his community. Reality check! Re: sanctioning people for saying some teachers are control freaks. This is politically inadmissable? Er, isn't control-freakishness about the minutiae of practice kind of a hallmark of ashtangi youth? A phase teachers and students understandably go through before they become more secure and understand how to integrate practice back into reality rather than idealizing it as "pure" and "perfect"? Re: censoring EZBoard. Um...? What if we all were to lighten up? Love to you all........ |
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Posts: 863 (06/10/08 10:10:13) Lady Governess |
(recomposing myself).
Owl, are you accusing me of censoring or sanctioning suziecolumbus at all? |
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Posts: 50 (06/10/08 11:34:43) |
There does seem to be some tension on the board about what information is allowed to be posted, and in the YV-SC exchange above.
But my comments were actually focused not an "accusing" (that word's emotional resonance is trouble) but on the thread topic: the possibility of practice and a separate career, and finding teachers who facilitate that possibility or rule it out. People have different paths--rtsvet, suzie, cody, me. But how can new practitioners find the teacher/s they need if we can't post info about where to practice when the Mysore shala is closed and we can't say that certain teachers don't facilitate practice with a career? |
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Posts: 864 (06/10/08 11:45:08) Lady Governess |
Let's get things straight:
- I usually delete spam messages. The latest ones were a set of about 15 that had links to porn pages camouflaged as fake links to yoga poses, if I remember correctly. - People can advertise where to practice when the shala is closed; it was just not appropiate on a thread that was about studying with Guruji, moreso when there was another thread of its own with exactly the same information, which I left intact. - suziecolumbus can write whatever she wants; I would not censor her unless she wrote something offensive, which knowing her from the board I doubt that she would ever. But you can't demand that I don't respond with my opinion either. - So, "accusing" has emotional resonance but "censoring" and "sanctioning" no? I don't think we are playing by the same rules here. You know what? This is really not worth it, for me. So I step off, I'm sure someone with a more even temper than me can do a much better job. No big deal. |
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Posts: 865 (06/10/08 11:45:23) Lady Governess |
"down". Step down.
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ideowl |
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Posts: 51 (06/10/08 11:51:17) |
Wow. I'm really, really sorry.
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YogaVane |
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Posts: 866 (06/10/08 12:55:51) Lady Governess |
Don't be. It's not a big deal. I had been thinking about it for a while and I don't want to do such a public job if there is the slightest
suspicion that I'm not doing it properly.
I'd rather be able to spew off at my free will and have someone else monitor what I write! |
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Posts: 52 (06/10/08 13:07:19) |
Well I think everyone here thinks you do it amazingly. It is a service you give to all of us and I am so sorry that my comments above seemed ungrateful.
For what it's worth, I feel like your expertise in computer systems management and your knowledge of ashtanga culture around the world make your service here that much more smart and efficient. |
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Posts: 158 (06/10/08 14:16:27) |
YogaVane wrote: You mean those weren't yoga poses? Yikes! Now I've got some 'splaining to do at home! |
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sanjaya |
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Posts: 260 (06/10/08 14:31:00) |
YV - what happened to your blog?
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Posts: 334 (06/10/08 14:45:53) |
An effective mantra could be: Dont let Ashtanga vinyasa yoga practice get in the way of living a rich full life. A huge aspect of this practice or any other is making it all fit together. The mirror we are all shining knows how to do this. |
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Posts: 16 (06/10/08 18:37:12) |
rtsvet wrote: OK feel free to delete this post but I just want to get this off my chest. I am sick of 'yogis' who seem to feel to need to compare or compete on how supposedly 'yogic' they are. So if you have a job, have family to support, doesn't live in an ashram, you are somehow less yogic ? I guess I am doubly annoyed because in my local media there are a lot of talk about downsizingyour life, work less hard and be more happy. Which I am all for except there seem to be an implicit assumption that those who work hard and demanding careers must be consumerist and materialist and are somehow look down upon. Imagine the day when nurses, doctors paramedics, firefighters all decide to be 'yogic' and work 9 to 5, two days a week, in order to be happy, ( and do a 6 day a week yoga practice ! ) I go to a shala practice about twice a week and practice at home the rest of the time. I know that in my shala the people that consistently go there 6 day a week tend to get more new poses. Which I am ok with because that's where I am in my life right now. I don't need more poses to have a good practice or feel more yogic. |
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Posts: 20 (06/11/08 03:54:35) |
Yep university career would be perfect! (Indology, Eastern Religions, etc.)
----- Not that I'm discovering America, but hathayogapradipika in the first chapter advices a yogi to settle in a peaceful country, with lawful ruler and where is easy to get alms. In other words you can't develop practice effectively in some situations/careers. (sure to do some asanas is almost always possible) Thanx @dalikiefer for sharing experience. It just emphasise that sometime playing down on career might make practising more difficult. I'll also recheck Yoga Mala. It's a important topic. @cody: Ashtanga is pretty much defining my daily live. (and I'm happy with this) How otherwise one could manage to practice consistently and intensely for years, 1.5-2 hours daily? It demands to adjust your sleep, eating, drinking, relations ... (except perhaps you are in your twenties and body recovers rapidly) |
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Posts: 21 (06/11/08 04:47:02) |
@Floss
The least I intended was "yogier than thou" attitude. Personally I cope as most of us keeping my demanding practice and career daily. Sometimes I think I'm lucky to have career allowing me enough time for practice and further studding yoga. I also know it wasn't always like this and perhaps won't last forever. Just as almost everybody here, I'm integrating yoga in my days as I can. (sometimes good sometimes not so)
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