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Cat Lover

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Aug 4 05 10:33 AM

The message of this board is in the nonattachment practiced by the regular contributors: "Sorry, what? You were offended when I called you an idiot and shredded your earnest contribution to teensy little bits?"

Thumps chest: "I'm just SUCH an advanced and hardcore ashtangi that nonattachment is present in everything I do, especially when I'm SMUG and RUDE."

Hands in prayer pose, continues: "I'm not attached to my actions, the results of my actions, or YOUR hurt feelings. Which means I can say WHATEVER comes to mind because nonattachment means nonresponsibility means 'Somebody forgot to wash their underwear, I can smell it from here.' Why are you looking at me like that? Are WE having a BAD day today?"

Lifts foot behind head, concludes: "I'm flexible, see? That's not YOUR foot behind my head. That's MY foot behind my head. I can also do a cartwheel. You're crying? Smelly underwear? Can't afford soap? You're leaving me for another discussion board? Anyway, I can also kiss my mula bandha while bending backwards. Wanna see?"

And such is life for the nonattached instigator.

(Edited: And such is life for the nonattached instigator (sic regular contributor).

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okrgr

looseness of association

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Aug 4 05 11:00 AM

Top Doc

that response is concerning

YogaChickie

Re: looseness of association

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Aug 4 05 11:21 AM

In the context of a message board, non-attachment means that when your feelings are hurt, you look at it with a sense of calm, without hating or judging the person who hurt your feelings, knowing that you can't control that person who hurt your feelings and knowing that it is pointless to try.

It is not for the person who hurts your feelings to say, "You really need to show more non-attachment." It's for the person whose feelings are hurt to practice that difficult-to-practice discipline of non-attachment. It would be NICE if people were generally more mindful of how their words might impact others, but since people will do what people will do, the best thing to do is to practice non-attachment when you are the one on the receiving end of a barb.

That being said, it is goddamned difficult to do. But I think I said that already.

Cat Lover

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Aug 4 05 12:16 PM

Yes, nonattachment is easy to define, but difficult to practice.

tat tvam amasi

The Last Word

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Aug 5 05 12:07 AM

Forearm Modulator

If ... you jump into an ongoing discussion and start telling people they are idiots. If you keep whining to the moderator to delete posts that don't happen to agree with your somewhat limited and biased 'Weltanschauung', don't be suprised if some people won't take it lying down.

I've never been rude or insulting to anyone who didn't first jump down my throat.

And when I do, I give as good as I get and more besides.

Criticise and correct me by all means, but please play nice with me and I'll play nice with you.

Otherwise, all bets are off.

doug

smyyga

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Aug 5 05 4:18 AM

My nonattachment does not result from yoga but from a history of being an abrasive asshole on Usenet. It was fun for awhile but it does get old. :devil

YogaChickie

Smyyga

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Aug 5 05 4:26 AM

Oh yeah, now I remember you!

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laproxdoc

Re: Smyyga

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Aug 5 05 6:51 AM

Smyyga! How are you? Nice to see you back. How's life in Rome these days?

Cat Lover

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Aug 5 05 7:25 AM

Oh goodness. I'm just bursting with love all over the place. (Okgr: "You're just loosely associating again.")

:blowhard

suziecolumbus

yoga for seniors

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Aug 5 05 4:40 PM

On the topic of yoga for seniors... Lilias Folan is coming to our studio the weekend of October 21 to give a workshop. At age 69, she is still teaching and practicing yoga and I cannot wait to learn from her how to modify poses as you get older.

Cat Lover

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Aug 5 05 5:08 PM

I remember watching her on TV ... in the early 70s I believe (when I was living in Columbus!). She was my first introduction to yoga. Should be a wonderful workshop.

smyyga

Re: Smyyga

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Aug 8 05 9:34 AM

Hello Laprox,

Just back from holidays in Finland, it was superb as that corner of the world usually is in July. How do you do, did you get to go to any of Lino's retreats?

suziecolumbus

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Apr 17 12 5:03 PM

Hello all, if any of you are still around. I was browsing arouund the board after just completing a 4 day Tim Miller workshop. It was my 7th Tim workshop. He has, in the past several years, begun to talk a lot about the practice of ashtanga for aging yogis. It's an important topic, as all of Guruji's first Western students are in their late 50s or early 60s by now. Tim is 61, and many of the students in our workshop, including me, were in the same age range.

Tim believes that ashtanga should be inclusive. He would never turn away a student who cannot do the full primary series or who needs props, or modifications, and would never tell them that they cannot practice ashtanga. He said that he adapts the poses to the students, not the students to the poses. Put another way, Gary Kraftsow said recently that he doesn't teach postures, he teaches students.

Tim acknowleged that the asana practice declines with age. But as some have said in this thread, asana is only the third of the 8 limbs and all the others can be practiced into advanced age.

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